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Post by ralphwiggum on Feb 1, 2006 23:50:19 GMT -5
Is it possible to make money from an animation like Nim's Journey???
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Post by MizzBlackCherry on Feb 2, 2006 2:36:35 GMT -5
Some flash artists are contracted by various companies to make toons.
Often you get cash prizes, various awards (if you're good), and some flash artists make money from T-shirt and merchandise sales.
There may be other ways, but I'm not sure of them.
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Post by ralphwiggum on Feb 2, 2006 7:00:01 GMT -5
OK, changing the subject, and I don't want to insult you, but shouldn't art be to make people feel 'better' not 'worse?' Your image is really bad. It is so bad, it make me want to ..
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Post by Ola Schubert on Feb 2, 2006 7:49:34 GMT -5
Hi there Ralph, and welcome to the board.
It is always possible to make maoney out of your work, the problem is how. It would be great to recieve money for working with a film, but with money often comes responsebiletys and expectations from the people funding the project.
I am not that good at turning my ideas into a profitable project. I wish I had the ability, but I don´t.
When it comes to the next statement, I believe Art should make an impact on people, make them think. Would it not be boring if every film you saw would be a happy film?
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Post by ralphwiggum on Feb 2, 2006 14:20:41 GMT -5
Like MizzBlackCherry said, I guess, yo could get a job working on an animation and get paid by the company who hired you. I had an idea once of making a NIKE commercial and I thought if I do a good job, I would send it to Nike and see if they would buy it. But never did do it.
I am just hoping MizzBlackCherry changes her banner, because I don't like it. I know in real life, it's not polite to say to someone 'I don't like what you did' because they can tell me they don't like me, but I think on the internet it's better to be honest.
What do you think, MizzBlackCherry?
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Post by MizzBlackCherry on Feb 2, 2006 16:04:54 GMT -5
I don't mind if you don't like it. I think however, that the expression on her face makes up for what appears to be blood (it might not be, it's just red is all). To me the woman looks to be very much in control of her 'situation', sarcastic even. Doesn't seem sad at all.
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Post by Ola Schubert on Feb 3, 2006 8:19:15 GMT -5
What is it in the image that you do not like?
I kind of like it, I really like the coloring. The texture makes me think of a concrete wall. I get the feeling of sacrifice, like somekind goddess that sacrifices herself to protect the helpless victims of grim violence. As you wrote, it feels like she is in control.
The more I look at it, the more I like it. I believe the image can tell different stories to different people, but you can always decide for yourself if you want the story to be happy or sad.
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Post by ralphwiggum on Feb 4, 2006 19:34:28 GMT -5
One of the most successful artists on planet earth is Thomas Kinkade - he paints scenes that make you feel good. Maybe the world isn't as wonderful as his scenes suggest, but people buy his paintings because they like them. I was in Placerville, California where Kinkade grew up, and I saw a lineup of over 100 people to buy some of his prints that he was donating profits to charity.
Another successful artist, from Haawaii, Christian Lassen paints whales, and fish and ocean scenes that also make you feel good. Lassen is a one man industry, probably makes millions of dollars each year. People buy his paintings because they like them.
When I go to see a movie, I always like the movies with good photography, that show different places in the world - and I never ever like to see movies with a murder in them. A good soundtrack is also important in a movie. Sure, horror movies are made, but for me, I won't waste my time. I was watching a movie once that I picked out, 'Good Morning Vietnam' and I saw how adversely another person was affected when, in the movie, a bomb blew up and there was blood all over. I realized that sure, they make movies with bombs, and killing, but that's not the BEST way to go about things.
I grew up in northern Alberta, 250 miles north of Edmonton, and I remember playing hockey on an outdoor rink ( a small pond) in the evening - the snow sparkled in the moonlight just like it seems to in Nims Winter Tale. I also like the music in Nims movies, but maybe just as important as the nice artwork and music is the story itself, of a little girl who believes in elves or whatever that little character is.
So Mizz Blackcherry's image has: blood on her hands, and coming out of her eyes. Why? Why would someone have blood on her hands and her eye? Was she driving a tractor, mowing the cherry orchard, and a branch got stuck in the mower, and she went to fix it, but the blade cut her? Or what?
I don't like it.
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Post by MizzBlackCherry on Feb 5, 2006 3:24:16 GMT -5
The point of art is not just to make you feel good. For example, Salvador Dali painted some fairly grim scenes is his time, and I love them for my own reasons. Quote: So Mizz Blackcherry's image has: blood on her hands, and coming out of her eyes. Why? Why would someone have blood on her hands and her eye? Was she driving a tractor, mowing the cherry orchard, and a branch got stuck in the mower, and she went to fix it, but the blade cut her? Or what?'Why' she has the blood doesn't matter, that isn't the point. But if we must play the 'why' game, I'll wager a guess that the figure has been backed against the wall, beaten, bloody. And yet she stands, arms raised, with a look of defiance on her face. Whatever she has battled (figuratively) she appears to have conquered it. Not everyone see's the same image, or has the same emotional reaction. Not everyone has lived a life where a happy scene depicting smiling faces would be anywhere near a true reflection of their own reality. So, perhaps in my mind, I get more of a personal reaction from my signature, than I would from a scene of dolphins swimming happily in the sea. That does not reflect on my perception of the world I live in.
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Post by Ola Schubert on Feb 5, 2006 7:25:49 GMT -5
I think most of us strive to be happy in some way. Yet the world is far from a happy place, there is so much going on that we could not even imagine. So much poverty, war, suffering, injustice, people scream out their agony all around this globe. How can we help? What can we do? The first thing is to be able to recognize that there is a problem. How do you hear about those things? On the news? Most of us do. But Newspapers and talk shows just gives us information, we read them, and forget about them. To be inspired is a great thing; to be able to inspire others is a even greater thing. If you see a movie that makes you feel good, then, that is brilliant. There are many films that gives us this feeling. But what I find important is art that make a difference, an impact, that makes people think and question themselves and others. We had a artwork here in Stockholm called "Snow-white" A photo of a smiling woman, 29-year-old trainee lawyer Hanadi Jaradat, appeared as the sail on a boat in a basin filled with red water. She blew herself up and killed herself and 19 Israelis in Haifa. The Israelis were outraged, thinking that the artwork glorified the suicide bomber. That was the way they interpreted it. On the other hand, if the photograph of Hanadi Jaradat had been exchanged with one on Ariel Sharon, the reactions would probably be even stronger. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3406041.stmIt stirred lots of feelings, and it was not a artwork that you would leave with a smile upon your face. But it was important and it made a impact on people, made them think. I love to go out from a exhibition or cinema with the feeling of being able to change things. To be enlightened and inspired by people who is fighting for a cause. That I too would have the courage to do what they did, to be able to tell a story and make others feel inspired, to make a change. But now and then, I have to watch artworks that make me feel good, those too can be inspirational.
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lanton
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Post by lanton on Feb 5, 2006 20:45:36 GMT -5
To me art is a form of self expression and has a different meaning for each viewing. When I first saw this piece I felt haunted by the image and the meanings that lay behind it, but looking at it today I feel that the woman is neither suicidal, nor being beaten, she is there because she wants to be there. Tomorrow I will see something else entirely in the picture depending upon how I'm feeling. Art, in all its forms, isn't just there to make people feel good, it is there to make people feel. Which is why there are lots of different types of pictures and lots of different 'art' in the world. Everyone is different and everyone finds beauty and intrigue in different images and subjects.
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Post by Esn on Feb 11, 2006 3:49:54 GMT -5
To be honest, MBC's picture simply scares me. The proportions and everything about it are just very frightening to my eyes... Which is not to say that I don't like it or think she should remove it - it's just my opinion. And yet it seems that there are many people who DO like that sort of thing, or else horror movies would not have an audience. Well, I don't know about you, but my own criteria is simply that I have to like it. It's quite possible for me to like darker things, so I guess that counts as making me feel better, right? I've never been a fan of tasteless violence or horror movies, but I can often find beauty or meaning in darkness. Something like this, for example.
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